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Don’t be Misled by a Clinics IVF Success Rate

It is very easy to look at the published success rate for a particular clinic and believe that you can use this to compare how good the clinic is compared to any other. This is definitely not the case – as I’ve found. When I wrote my letter to clinics for more information on their IVF treatment I specifically posed the questions:

  • What is the maximum age that you treat?
  • Are there any fertility conditions that you will not treat?

because if the clinic restrict their treatment to relatively easy cases – younger women without complicated infertility issues – then their success rate is bound to be higher.

I have just read an article about the claimed success rates in Queensland, Australia, and find that even with these questions answered I stand little chance of getting a comparable success rate, or even a rate that means anything at all! Check out the article here, and remember that choosing a clinic can be as much about how you feel they respond to you as it is their published success rates – which is why I am finding the responses to my letter so informative, and you can find them all published here on this blog to help you too.

New test is available in India that can stop wasted IVF attempts

A new test has been developed that can test for defective eggs, hence stopping the cost and emotional turmoil of an IVF attempt that would never have worked. The test is available at Dehli’s Pheonix Hospital and costs around US$215 on top of the IVF treatment. Check out the full article here.

Over 40’s Now Twice as Likely to have a Successful IVF Pregnancy – Hooray!

In the last two years us over 40’s have now double the chance of a successful IVF pregnancy than we had previously – I’ll give a big cheer for that!

This has been achieved through advancements in IVF technology, including better media for culturing embryos and the trend in transferring embryos at the blastocyst stage, five or six days after fertilisation.

They now claim that the over 40’s (that’s me!!) now has a realistic chance of a successful IVF pregnancy. Check out the full article here.

New Advancements in IVF Treatment

This week has seen the announcement of two new advancements in IVF technology. The first, very exciting, is that scientists at Oxford University have discovered why some embryos fail to implant in the womb. Apparantly this is down to two protiens called Rac1 and RhoA – or the lack of these. They’ve even caught it on film – see the video below! If the implantation of embryos can be more guaranteed then the success rates for IVF treatment could potentially double! In other words the IVF cost could half! Check out the full article here.

 

New surrogacy regulations could be coming to India

There is talk of new regulations coming to India that will increase the cost and mean that a lawyer as well as a doctor will be required for the process. India is fast becoming the place to go for surragacy and this new ruling may well change all that. Check out the full articles:

The Times of India

The Electric New Paper

Less than half price IVF treatment – for a limited time only!

Dr. Paul Magarelli from the Corona Institute for Reproductive Medicine & Fertility (CIRMF) in California is offering a complete cycle of IVF for just $6,000 – less than half the typical price in the USA – during October, November and December 2008. You need to get the coupons from the “In Search of the Stork” seminars.Read the full details here.

Britains most successful IVF doctor – in the news again.

Britains most successful IVF doctor – achieving almost double the national average success rate – is attracting a lot of press this week. Mohammed Taranissi has been up against allegations from the HFEA and the General Medical Council. Just this week the HFEA have backed down on their allegations and Mr. Taranissi has been cleared to run his London clinic again.

Check out all of the news on this in the following sources:

Times Online

The Sun

Daily Express

The Independent

IVF Cost at Thai Superior ART, Thailand

The following is the reply that I received to my letter for IVF cost, IVF success rates and IVF process to Thai Superior ART in Thailand. Unfortunately when you check out the website there is no cost information available and it is said to be case by case dependant.

I received an intermediate acknowledgement of my request for information on the same day that I sent the email, this reply came two days later.

 

For age ,success rate is less than 10%.

 

Could you get more information in my webside:www.thaisuperiorart.com

 

Regards,

 

panita_muy

 


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www.thaisuperiorart.com

Panita Muyen
Acting Nurse Manager

SUPERIOR A.R.T.
2/2 Bhakdi Building, Wireless Road
Lumpinee, Pathumwan, Bangkok 10330 Thailand
e-mail : panita@thaisuperiorart.com
Tel.  +662 255 4848  Fax. +662 255 8455

IVF Cost at Dr Erfanian IVF Clinic, Iran

Below is the response that I received to my letter about the IVF cost, IVF success rate and IVF process at Dr. Erfanian IVF Clinic in Iran. A quick response – received the morning after I emailed the letter to them.

The response is very brief and, at the time of writing this, there is no information on the website, which can be found at http://drerfanianivfclinic.wordpress.com/ but Dr Erfanian did answer nine of my sixteen questions directly, which were:

  1. What is the current success rate for your clinic? (preferably by age as I know that the success rate will be much lower for somebody of my age)
  2. How many cycles do you perform per year at the clinic?
  3. What is the maximum age that you treat?
  4. Are there any fertility conditions that you will not treat?
  5. What is your embryo transfer policy? How many embryos will you replace at one time?
  6. What is the basic cost of the IVF treatment?
  7. What additional costs would / could be incurred?
  8. What happens to the costs if the cycle has to be abandoned?
  9. How long would I need to be in Iran for?

Here is the response I received:

I hope you are fine and happy
as you wrote it is a long list resemble to an inspection any way
1-current success rate =35-40 %
2- cycles = 700 – 800 per year
3- 48
4- yes
5- two routinley
6- 2000 US$ for one IVF cycle, not including anything else.
A complete ART cycle with egg donation cost 10000$ . it include all IVF/ICSI expences , multiple gynecologist visit ,multiple sonoraphy, laboratory tests for you and donor , hospital expences , all drugs and medication and donor fee and also accomodation.
7- laboratory test , hysterosalpingogram and additional probable necessory tests
8- it should be repeat because most of cost is related to medications
9- at least one month
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send me your complete medical history ans tests of you and your husband . I examine them and write to you more.
Dont worry I do my best and if necessory I organize your accommodation or cost is the best
Hope to see you you with your beautiful baby here.

Best regards

Call for programming
(+98)9375379387
Mashhad , Iran
Dr Erfanian

IVF Cost at the Ideal Fertility Centre in India – great information!

To date this is certainly my favourite response to the letter I sent to IVF clinics – and it’s not just because he thinks this site is fantastic! It is so clear that Dr. Banerji really read and understood what I was asking and then took the time to answer all of my sixteen questions directly and fully. On top of that it was a fast response – the morning after I sent the email.

If you check out their website at http://www.idealfertility.com you will find some excellent information, their email address is dpankar@idealfertility.com. There are also the costs for local accomodation within 1 km of the clinic given on the website.

Since Dr. Banerji has answered my questions so directly to save you having to go between my letter and this response I have added the questions that I asked in red.

I think the big thing that has really warmed me to Dr. Banerji is that his response is full yet personal and I feel a real honesty coming through, along with a real pride in the work that they do. This clinic will certainly be on my short list!

I went through your site mentioned. It was fantastic
I am putting my heart to tell the truth of my center, so that you can help yourself or help others if you feel we are capable enough to handle the international patients.
IVF is a process needs complete transparency with the couple undergoing the treatment .There should be freindly and most informal dicussion between the doctor and the couple. I never believe in counsellor.
Its me, who the couple should believe, and has full right to watch my work. We are total in-house working team. I am a gynecologist and my wife is one of the best embryologist (a qualified pathologist). Now I am answering the questions

 

1. What is the current success rate for your clinic? (preferably by age as I know that the success rate will be much lower for somebody of my age)

1. Success rate : < 30 yrs. 45.2%, 30-35yrs  23% and above 35yrs. 10-12%. There are number of factors which affects success rate even in low age group

 

2. How many cycles do you perform per year at the clinic?

2. Number of cycles per yr. 500 to 600

 

3. What is the maximum age that you treat?

3. We treat upto 55-60 yrs. After 38-39 we prefer egg donation.

 

4. Are there any fertility conditions that you will not treat?

4. no professional surrogacy or egg donation.

 

5. What is your embryo transfer policy? How many embryos will you replace at one time?

5. Embryo transfer policy: We do Day 5 blastocyst transfer. 2-3 maximum (as blstocysts are usually less in number), We do not do single embryo transfer. To lessen the multiple pregnancy rate, we stimulate with less drugs and get less eggs, but good quality eggs. Lesser the embryos, better the embryos and go to blastocyst. Only best embryos goes to blastocyst and then transfer them.

 

6. What is the basic cost of the IVF treatment?

6.Cost of IVF : US$ 2500 and ICSI US$ 3000

 

7. What additional costs would / could be incurred?

7. No other costs involved for the treatment (no hidden cost), lodging boarding extra.

 

8. What happens to the costs if the cycle has to be abandoned?

8. Cycle cancellation because of poor stimulation (less than 3 eggs) : cost of used drugs, investigation charges, our consultation fee, sonography charges are taken, rest of the money is given back (the amount is on sole descretion of the doctor, but usually it is half of the amount).

 

9. How long would I need to be in India for?

9. In India : you need to stay for one month – one and half month. It can be reduced if part of the treatment is started in parent country. Then we reduce the cost those drugs what couple used from our charges, but it is our cost in India.

 

10. Who deals with the logistics of flights and accommodation?

10. Logistics of flight and accomodation : definitety we help. In my site it is there, how to reach us. Accomodation is there and to and from airport taxi facility is there at an extra cost.

 

11. How is the pre-treatment carried out?

11. Preparation of treament: Usually the reports are asked first to assess the ovarian reserve, endometrial lining and semen and cycle regularity. One oral contraceptive is started form day 2 and we call them on day 17 of the cycle before finishing the OCs. Injection luprolide is started on 17th or 18th tablet of OCs. OCs finishes on 22nd day of cycle and Injection continues .After the withdrawal period of OCs, we assess the aievement of Down regulation. It is either by sonography and/or Estradiol. After that we start Actual gonoadotropins, we use highly purified Gonoadotropins ( if couple wishe for recombinant one then the cycle cost will be more), but highly purified gives same results.

 

12. How do I get medication?

12. Medications can be sent through courier ( but it is difficult, because of regulations), hence we tell patients to come to us for full treatment.

 

13. How will I be monitored?

13. Monitoring is usually by sonography. If required we do hormones.

 

14. How will I know that I am not being under / over stimulated?

14.For hyper /under stimulation: you can see the sonography screen and if required estradiol assay.

 

15. If I have a problem whilst in the UK who would I go to?

15. In UK where to go : I do not know the health care facility there.

 

16. Is the clinic registered with any regulatory body?

16. Clinic is ISO 9001-2000 test tube baby center: JAS-ANZ.

 

 

Any thing you need extra: It is given in my web site: About Us page
Hope this will help.
If you can do an advocay campaign for indian centers to get recognised by NHS then treatment will be cheaper and faster. We are equipped with state of the art instruments of world and with worldclass disposables.
It was a long answer, but I liked your questions.
Bye
Dr.D’Pankar Banerji MS
Consulting Gynecologist and Infertility specialist
Ideal Fertility :ICSI/IVF and Genetic Center
1st Floor,Deshbandhu Complex.
Naudra Bridge,Jabalpur 482001 MP,INDIA

www.idealfertility.com Ph: +91 761 2627711, 00919826166952
Khamla square,Shivneri appt. Nagpur ( second sundays of the month )